Wednesday, June 24, 2009

Working Together to Control Spending

I did see a car careen off of Route 4 and slam into the Teaneck High School fence right at the Queen Anne Road exit ramp, but the real fireworks were inside the Helen B. Hill Auditorium.

I sympathize with the firefighters and the concerns of fellow Teaneck residents that we will be placed at risk if positions are cut.

But I am also concerned as a taxpayer that we have created a structure that is entirely unsustainable. Not unlike General Motors, we have been in an environment for the past decade and longer in which salaries went up at rates far higher than inflation and benefit costs for insurance and pensions skyrocketed, all paid for by the township and passed on to the taxpayer. These costs could be passed on to car buyers until the discrepancies made better and cheaper alternatives more desirable. Teaneck's equalized tax rates for 2007 placed it with the 6th highest municipal taxes of the 70 municipalities in Bergen County and 3rd highest in overall taxes. Fortunately for GM they were considered to be too big to fail. Teaneck is not so lucky.

While new revenue is great, and must be pursued, it has not and will never keep pace with the growth of wages and benefits if salaries grow at 4% annually (or even 2.9%) and benefit costs grow even faster.

The first step needs to be an organized benchmarking process that would allow the Council and residents to see how Teaneck compares to other area municipalities on measures of importance, including spending per capita, residents per police officer / firefighter, police / fire spending per capita, rates of emergency incidents for police and fire, response times, distance to stations, number of stations, etc., along with other measures more relevant to our other such as the DPW, Recreation Department, Library and other municipal departments.

While this information won't provide any answers on its own, it will allow the Council and the public to identify areas where there are potential savings that can be modeled after those of other municipalities that perform these tasks as safely and more efficiently than Teaneck currently does. In some areas, Council and residents may agree that spending more than our neighbors is worth it. But without this valuable information, we have no idea where we stand.

We need an organized process in which the township and its employees work together to control and cut costs. A Council subcommittee should meet together with the Manager, department management and employee representatives on an ongoing basis to look at ways in which the growth in spending can be controlled or eliminated. The overall budget for each department -- wages and benefits, as well as capital and ongoing expenditures -- must be looked at in a comprehensive manner. Cost savings to the township can come from greater productivity, adjusted staffing, elimination of overtime, scheduling changes, attrition, sharing benefit costs and using equipment and expendables more efficiently, among a myriad of other possible changes. Firing employees who provide needed services that address vital community needs should always be a last resort.

This is hard work. It requires a team effort to address our problems. It's a process that will not allow for individual publicity stunts. But if we don't work together to solve these problems, these budget meetings will only become even more contentious for years to come, as municipal employees show up to deride layoffs while the overburdened taxpayers wake up and express their equal frustration with taxes spiraling out of control.

Alan Sohn

61 comments:

Zev Mo said...

@Alan

While I agree with almost all of what you are saying, Alan, I still think that the claim, "salaries went up at rates far higher than inflation" is dubious. In fact, right after that statement you added, "and benefit costs for insurance and pensions skyrocketed", which is one of the parts of real inflation that is never calculated for any worker, public/private, union/non-union alike. Clearly costs have gone up tremendously (home, insurance, investment b/c people no longer get pensions with the advent of 401k's, fuel, food, TV, Phone, Internet, etc.), while pay has remained flat or gone down for most non-unionized workers. The only reason union pay is higher is b/c they try and negotiate the cost of living increases, while the average worker is kept in a state of fear that they will lose their jobs and have no health care, or not be able to find another job, so deal with the low pay and high credit card balances and second mortgages. This is a systemic problem that goes beyond Teaneck and our costs, or be blamed on the "evil" union bogeyman.

Again, while I agree that we have to do our part locally, the fact that this is part of a much larger model of insane conservative economic policies should not be overlooked.

Anonymous said...

It's a process that will not allow for individual publicity stunts.

Tell that to Mayor Feit - The King of Stunts.

Anonymous said...

This debate is tiring and circular. A local problem has to be fixed locally. We can't afford to wait until the larger system is fixed. I am tired of unions when they only serve to bully and fear monger. Admit you have a good deal and make some concessions for crying out loud. The rules of the game have changed, and not to punish anyone or make anyone less safe. I had a cushy job once and luckily I realized it, most others were too busy complaining. When I was laid off it sucked, but the company got smart and I can understand that. I am sorry that I have no practical suggestions for bringing people together. Maybe this discussion is the only way...

Swiggle said...

The fact of the matter is that when the council had an opportunity for an audit of spending when they were deciding on the failed budget for the Board of Ed, they said they didn't want it. If they are going to put their heads in the sand and not even seek out the information necessary to make an informed decision, we are doomed to see this happen OVER AND OVER again!

Anonymous said...

Yes. Let us not forget about the other pocket to the taxpayers' pants--the Board of Education.

The wastefulness there is breathtaking.

The non-teaching part of their budget (and the entire Merrison Street building) need severe pruning.

R.F.O'Neill said...

I have never wrote on any .com or blog until now. I'll assume that real men and women use their real names. I'll even go as far as giving you my cell 973-670-9924 and my e-mail address is bobbyo215@aol.com. I live at 292 Hemlock Terr.So.Teaneck, N.J.

I am one of the fire deputys that was forced to retire. I want Mildred Tucker to rest easy and be assured you will never have any reason to think that a firefighter in Teaneck would not do something heroic to save you or any resident.

Yoni said...

Thank you Mr. Oneil! I thank you for your years of service and I hope you enjoy you retirement.

Swiggle said...

Mr. O'Neil,

While I understand the desire to declare you are a real person, I'd caution you not to put your "real" email address on public blogs. "Real" websites scour them and collect information which just leads to more and more spam. At the very least, try writing bobbyo215 at aol.com so they can't grab it.

Anonymous said...

I am one of the fire deputys that was forced to retire.

Were you forced to retire or did you want to retire before you were demoted which would leave you with less long term money since your pension is based on your salary?

If we're gonna be candid, let's call a spade a spade...that is what REAL men do, right?

Out Of Rightfield said...

Teaneck resident, Teaneck employee, with a 973 cell phone area code?

Karin said...

Teaneck Property records show that 292 HEMLOCK TERR is owned by Mr. Rosano not Mr. O'Neil.

Anonymous said...

Some people just don't get it and want it all at the expense of someone else...

Anonymous said...

Karin, Mr O'Neill lives with his nephew, who is the property owner. By your way of thinking, anybody who lives in an apartment is suspect then.

Anonymous said...

OOR,

About 10% of the people I know in town have a 201 area code for their cell phone.

What you use for 'proof' just gets dumber and dumber. Kind of like yourself!

Anonymous said...

Out of rightfield

If the shoe fits.

Anonymous said...

How many Teaneck residents live and work in Teaneck? How many commute to Manhattan, but live in Teaneck because it is more affordable? So it's ok for you to work in one place but live where you choose. I guess the American Dream doesn't apply to Teaneck employees. Live here, work here and when we don't need you anymore, we kick you out. Maybe that's why so few employees, not just firemen live in Teaneck

Anonymous said...

God Bless you Mr. O'Neill. I've lived in this town for over 45 years. Thank you for your service. It's a shame that new comers to this town have to destroy it.

Anonymous said...

Mr. O,Neil..
thank you for your service.
we know you have been true Teaneck since high school

What Lola Wants said...

Thank you for your service Mr. O'Neill. Some of these alleged people posting have never learned manners.

Out Of Rightfield said...

We all know former Deputy Chief O'Neill (and his brother, a former captain). They were defendants in the Vogelman/Brennan case.
Teaneck settled and paid big money on this one.
So O'Neill retired with a pension, his brother is already getting a pension, and these guys cost Teaneck a couple of hundred thousand in the settlement. Thanks Mr. O'Neill for your service and, based on the lawsuit and settlement, for your anti-semitism towards Vogelman and for providing him with a "hostile work environment."

Anonymous said...

I am one of the fire deputys that was forced to retire.

Mr. O'Neill,

Since you will now be getting your pension, perhaps you would stand up at the next Council meeting and request the Council start a Volunteer supplement to the Teaneck Fire Department. You seem angry that you can't continue to work (although I'm not sure who 'forced' you to retire) and obviously feel you are still capable of doing the job, so why don't you volunteer?

You did say after all that:
I want Mildred Tucker to rest easy and be assured you will never have any reason to think that a firefighter in Teaneck would not do something heroic to save you or any resident.

Volunteering would certainly be heroic. The benefits would be great. You get paid by your pension, the scenes get the extra manpower and the town can save some money.

Anonymous said...

Anom 10:36

What volunteer work do you do???? I am still waiting to hear from ANYONE on this blog that will step up and say they will volunteer. If you are willing to volunteer for the TFD I assume you already volunteer at TVAC. Can you do both?? You must have plenty of spare time. I also didn't see anyone respond to Anom 11:08

Anonymous said...

Wow, still no volunteers coming out. Where are all of you?

Anonymous said...

They are all busy working at their jobs, then going home to spend time with their families. After they have an uniterrupted dinner and watch some tv, maybe they'll volunteer. If they aren't too tired.

Anonymous said...

Where does the current Township Manager live?

Anonymous said...

Are they all working there jobs in Teaneck so they can respond during the day????

Zev Mo said...

Are you looking for just one person?

I'll volunteer. I have Firefighter 1, Heavy Rescue, as well as EMT.

Now that you found someone, what does that mean? Nothing. It still won't solve the manpower issue, daytime crew need, and retain the expertise/working knowledge of structures, etc..

We need a paid fire dept. in town. No question. You might be able to argue that one house, one engine, to be volunteer, and see what impact that would have (if the house is closing anyway- which we are not sure of). It probably will only be filled in the afternoon/evening hours, and you still need to pay for equipment, insurance, and training stipends. So I don't see how this will dramatically save money, or affect safety.

Anonymous said...

Kudos to you Mr. Mo. At least you have the guts to say you would do it. Are you one of Gussen's dozen vollies? I would hope to knock at least one off of his list.

Zev Mo said...

I don't know of any list, but if needed, I would step up.

Anonymous said...

Zev Mo

I agree with you 100%. I am asking all the people who keep speaking about volunteers and are not willing to lift a finger. As far as I can remember you never suggested a volunteer Fire Dept. It seems to me you actually get it.

Anom 6:38 I don't think you read Zev Mo's post correctly. If he volunteers or not as a fireman in another town is irrelevant he understands what a paid Dept. is about. From what I can remember he has always supported the public servants in his posts

Anonymous said...

I understood his post. I was just wondering if he was one of the dozen people Gussen cited. At least he had the guts to say he would do it. Any more takers?

Anonymous said...

Now that you found someone, what does that mean? Nothing. It still won't solve the manpower issue, daytime crew need, and retain the expertise/working knowledge of structures, etc..

We need a paid fire dept. in town. No question.


Zev,

It can be done here in Teaneck much the same way that it's been done in other towns.

We couldn't create an all volunteer squad overnight and the volunteers wouldn't pour in all at once, but as is the situation in the hundreds of other municipalities that sleep quite well under the guard of volunteer fire departments, a steady stream of volunteers do show up over time and it has been proven over and over again to be a sustainable model.

Are there significant costs involved, even in an all volunteer fire department -- of course. A ladder truck and a pumper cost the same amount whether or not they are operated by volunteers, but there would be long term savings to be realized.

The one or two anonymous people that keep asking for a list of volunteers do nothing but distract from a productive discussion.

I am certified to drive emergency vehicles, was a volunteer first aider before moving to Teaneck and will be willing to volunteer again - so what? This blog is read and discussed by such a small population of Teaneck, that seeking volunteers here is a red herring.

I do have to say though that I'm especially suprised to see someone that worked at TVAC say that a volunteer model isn't do-able. Perhaps you should visit one of the (many) towns that has already done it and ask them to explain it to you.

Anonymous said...

Does that mean that the volunteer fire house will have a bar and party hall like the other volunteer towns? Good ole boys club. Been there, done that.

Anonymous said...

Anom 8:43
You said you would be happy to volunteer, are you a member of TVAC and if not, why? If Zev Mo is a member TVAC and feels this way, that should tell you something. So far he is the only one that has stepped up. If he did volunteer that would take him away from TVAC on some level. Everyone else besides Mo on this site that talks about volunteers is full of it. I hear so many people say how easy it would be but none besides Mo are TVAC members. If it would be so easy why does TVAC not have another 100 members? Show me another town in this area that has a volunteer Fire Dept. with a population of 40,000. Don't try to use Ft. Lee because A. it is smaller than Teaneck, B. all the high-rises are sprinkled and C. they have a PAID ambulance.

Anonymous said...

Ft. Lee also recieves a huge stipend compared to other volunteer towns. Yes the pay is smaller than a paid dept., but still, see how many members make their percentage of calls in the first half of the year and then slack off the rest of the time. Just like TVAC. A small group of dedicated members keep it going while others are members in name only.

Anonymous said...

Show me another town in this area that has a volunteer Fire Dept. with a population of 40,000 and is 6.5 square miles.

If you want to play this game, I'll play.

According to Wikipedia, The Census Bureau's 2007 population estimate for the township of Teaneck is 39,019

Let's take my old town, Marlboro. According to Wikipedia, The Census Bureau's 2005 population estimate shows that the Township of Marlboro has grown to 40,633 and is 30.6 square miles.

Marlboro Township has four volunteer fire departments and two volunteer first aid squads:

* Marlboro Fire Co. No. 1 (28-1)
* Robertsville Volunteer Fire Co. (28-2)
* Morganville Independent (28-3)
* Morganville (28-4)
* Marlboro First Aid & Rescue Squad (28-21)
* Morganville First Aid & Rescue Squad (28-23)

They seem quite able to hand a slightly greater population spread out over a considerably larger area (5x the size).

Cut the crap, there are tons of towns all over the State with similar stories.

Volunteers can do the same job, just as well!

Anonymous said...

sorry, I meant to include a link for Marlboro as well.

Anonymous said...

Did you volunteer in Marlboro? Or did you smoke them?

Anonymous said...

Wow, just like BLT and her comparison to some town in Arizona. How much of Marlboro is forest? How new are the houses? Newer construction, less chance of old wiring shorting out and causing a fire. Oh, and don't forget, for a town so large, what are the response times? My guess is that when the FD shows up, it's a surround and drown job.

Anonymous said...

Yes, a NJ town 45 minutes away is JUST like a comparison to Arizona. Rather than speculate, why don't you do a shred of research? Or is bitching on a blog all you know how to do?

BFD said...

If you read this blog you would know that zevs first and foremost allegiance is to unions, so hence his support of the paid fire department.

Re volunteers in large towns- most of long island is volunteer, as is Westchester, with many towns the size and population of town. Heck, many of them even have the same amount of Jewish people and houses of worship if we want to get over technical, but I will leave the research data up to swiggle.

And by the way- I have 10 years + fire service, and met last night with 2 others with a combined 21 years.

And we live in teaneck. And we are spread out. And we are ready to respond to our neighbors.

And by the way again mr fd union spokesman, the trip from my house to station 3 with no blue light and without running any lights (there are no lights to run), is indeed 97 seconds. Add time to get dressed, get to the car etc and I am there pretty damn quickly, as I have been for 10 years.

And to reiterate my desire- it is not to eliminate the paid fire dept but to do a gradual phase in of volunteers one house at a time through attrition. The first step would be to transfer the current paid members out of that house to the other companies to bring the apparatus up to all national standards, and as paid guys retire further grow the volunteer department. This process should take 20 years. Slowly but surely it will act as a hedge against tax increases.

Anonymous said...

It may be a good idea, but don't you think the neighbors surrounding that one firehouse where all the volunteers are concentrated might feel a big like guinea pigs? Wouldn't you have to phase in the volleys evenly throughout the town?

Zev Mo said...

@BFD

I understand what you are saying, but I would disagree with one point. My priority, first and foremost, is not the unions, it is safety and knowledge to the art (yes) of firefighting. Unquestionably, the safest, most professional, and knowledgeable fire personnel are full-time, career fire fighters. Just like UMDNJ EMT's are more knowledgeable, and better trained than Pequannock First Aid & Rescue Squad, TFD are stationed, paid, and trained professionals.

And I am a big, big, big supporter of volunteer organizations. Is that saying that a volunteer fire dept. could "handle" Teaneck, sure, with assistance from mutual aid towns, using backup personnel during the daytime (usually municipal DPW workers, etc., like in other towns).

Volunteer EMS is a different model. You can have a core group of long-time members, but many members are high-school/college age who are transient (ride for 3-4 years and then go to college or move) who are mostly available when us old farts are at work or helping with our own kids at home/baseball/school. The requirements for service, skills, and knowledge is different on the job. And the time required for training, equipment checks, and call frequency (if Teaneck went all volunteer) is far greater.

Again, I am not saying that it can't be done. I am pointing out that these comparisons are not really on the same level, and most towns are at the mercy of the amount of people who have the desire to volunteer. There might be room for a hybrid solution, but I find it difficult to believe that with the population density, coverage area, type of structures (mixed, commercial, residential, age), and personnel requirements to run a safe fire scene, you would like what you would get with an all-volunteer dept.

And that aside, yes, I am also a big supporter of the right for employees of any company, big/small, public/private, to negotiate with their boss(es).

Out Of Rightfield said...

Zev Mo, you know full well that volunteers and career firemen are trained exactly the same, side-by-side with each other.

Zev Mo said...

@OOR

For the initial training (FF1, FF2), yes. But in-service training, continuing education, and on the job experience is NOT.

Anonymous said...

Thanks again Zev Mo. Keep trying to explain it to these people. Maybe if you speak slower they might get it.

Anom 10:59 You want to "Play a game" then answer the questions. If you and all your buddies have so much experience and willingness to volunteer answer one question. WHY ARE YOU NOT MEMBERS OF TVAC???? PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOU MOUTHS ARE!!!! If you are such caring people join up, I am sure TVAC could use all your training. Otherwise stop comparing Teaneck to South Jersey. I asked you to name a town in this area.

BFD said...

“Just like UMDNJ EMT's are more knowledgeable, and better trained than Pequannock First Aid & Rescue Squad, TFD are stationed, paid, and trained professionals.”

Zev- how many UMDNJ EMTs are/were TVAC members- a dozen- so same volunteer traning- your comparison is crsp?

Anonymous fd union rep- in my time I did hundreds of first aid calls, some of them with you

Anonymous said...

Anom 10:59 You want to "Play a game" then answer the questions. If you and all your buddies have so much experience and willingness to volunteer answer one question. WHY ARE YOU NOT MEMBERS OF TVAC???? PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOU MOUTHS ARE!!!!

Like I said, this blog is a too small of a subsection of Teaneck in order to accurate gague recruitment ability. Even still, you have three people (Zev Mo, myself and BFD) that said they would be willing to volunteer. I know someone that currently volunteers for a squad in Bergen County that said he would do it in Teaneck if given the chance, so that's 4. How many is enough for you (4 is already a substantial number when extrapolated to the population of Teaneck that DOESN'T read this blog)? I suspect there isn't a satisfactory answer for you.

If all you want to do is repeat the same lines over and over again, perhaps the moderators can give you your own thread.

If you are such caring people join up, I am sure TVAC could use all your training. Otherwise stop comparing Teaneck to South Jersey. I asked you to name a town in this area.

You ask for a comparison to someplace around here (a holdout to the paid FD model) in order to support your point that it can't be done. Then you claim you can't compare it to Fort Lee (since it actually CAN be done). It's a ridiculous argument.

When a comparison IS made to a Township in NJ with a comparable (slightly higher) population, you speculate that we have houses with older wiring without giving any statistics as to the number of house fires CAUSED by such "faulty wiring" or any facts whatsoever to support your point. Not even a random reference to an article.

You have written nothing to show any knowledge of volunteer organizations (I was part of a volunteer squad for years and know what I'm talking about), nor do you seem to have any knowledge of the particulars that would support your point.

Instead of blowing smoke up Zev Mo's ass, why don't you do a little bit of research, make a couple calls - check out how other towns deal with volunteers and if after that you think that Teaneck wouldn't be able to do something similar, feel free to tell us why based on your researched response.

Any moron can say it can't happen. Step up.

Zev Mo said...

"Zev- how many UMDNJ EMTs are/were TVAC members- a dozen- so same volunteer traning- your comparison is crsp? "

Again, same EMT training, but in-service training (done by, in this example, UMDNJ), training from highly experienced partners, and on-the-job training. TVAC prepares you to get the job, but as you know, on the street is another thing altogether. Example, TVAC vs. a somewhat small volume VAC... same training, right?

You can say that all neurosurgeons who graduate from the same medical school are qualified to do the same job, but the ones who go to the best internship programs, in the busiest hospitals, who see the most patients, and who's chief residents guiding them are unimportant. Which Doctor would you want to operate on your child? It's common sense.

Anonymous said...

You can say that all neurosurgeons who graduate from the same medical school are qualified to do the same job, but the ones who go to the best internship programs, in the busiest hospitals, who see the most patients, and who's chief residents guiding them are unimportant. Which Doctor would you want to operate on your child? It's common sense.

So why when you go into Holy Name for a headache do they not immediately get the neurosurgeon? It's not a question of who is the best, if it was we should recruit some of the FDNY and fire every Teaneck Fire Fighter, since they have an even more rigorous training.

The question is what gives the town the best coverage for the money. I'm quite satisfied with the job that volunteers have done for me when I've slept in any of the hundreds of NJ municipalities with volunteers protecting me and my loved ones.

I've trained with them and seen them get the same 'on-the-job' skills as paid fire-fighters.

Zev Mo said...

Look, it's clear, this is a circular debate. Nothing that is said here will convince some of you out of your position (on both sides). Everyone has their bias, or their opinion/comfort with the type of service they receive and pay for. That's fine. The question is, what can be done to meet the desires of the township residents as a whole? Should a ballot initiative be done? Unilateral decision by the council? What method would you agree to, or more to the point, not complain about the result of? or is this just a one answer argument, yours?

Anonymous said...

Zev,

We aren't far off here. I think your position (that we should not have a volunteer squad is valid one. What I disagree with is the opinion that it can't be done.

While I understand the desires of some (or many) to have ballot initiatives, we elect the council to do the job of voting on our behalf. If you don't like THAT system, good luck changing it (I'll be the first to sign the petition).

Unfortunately, the council here wouldn't even do an audit to determine where legitimate savings could be accomplished in the Education budget. Do I think they'd try something as monumental as shifting the balance of paid vs. fire? Not really. But I still say it can be beneficial and possible, even if it's just a pipe dream.

Zev Mo said...

"So why when you go into Holy Name for a headache do they not immediately get the neurosurgeon? It's not a question of who is the best, if it was we should recruit some of the FDNY and fire every Teaneck Fire Fighter, since they have an even more rigorous training."

I see what you are trying to say, but let me break it down for you.
I agree that you don't just buy the absolute best in the world. The reason you don't immediately get a neurosurgeon, or in this case Dr. House, when you present with a basic headache, is that you must triage and asses the patient to direct them to the proper care applicable to their situation. That is why the Charge Nurse, not the part-time, relatively green Nurse, in the ER will decide who to page for, what wing to send to, and then the second round, PA or Medical Physician will asses. If needed, a consult will be called, and so on and so forth until the neurosurgeon comes in. But the important thing is that the highly-trained Charge Nurse determines if you should sit in the waiting room or go into the ER or Trauma, page out, or otherwise. Can it be done with a less-trained nurse, yes. Will you die, who knows, that is too abstract and circumstantial to determine. But if you are willing to pay (within reason) for a MORE professional/trained service, not the MOST (FDNY example), you must find that happy zone.

I know you want to take over the TFD, at least partially, very badly. And I agree that there are a lot of fantastic, highly trained, and highly motivated volunteers that you have worked with... they are amazing. And I know that taxes are very, correction, extremely high for some (not from the cost of the municipal budget mostly, mind you), and I fully understand where you are coming from. But my concern is the ability to page out, get a competent crew, with all of the needed training and experience, to get my family out of my house in the middle of the night, g-d forbid. And I do sleep better at night knowing someone is in a rack who fits that description at TFD.

I am not saying it is cheaper, and I am not saying that it is not possible to create a hybrid solution, and I am not saying that they have FDNY experience/training. But you have to admit, you can ask Firefighters from HackensackFD who also Volunteer at a certain local VFD, are the full-time FF better at their jobs (in any way) than a volunteer, I am sure they will say yes.

Zev Mo said...

@anon
I aggree, i dont think we are all that far off. I totally appreciate where you are coming from, and I know it is from the right place.

Anonymous said...

Paid FF's are much better trained than vollies. Paid guys train at work....every shift....vollies may have one drill a month, and if they don't feel like showing up to it, then they don't train at all that month.

Anonymous said...

Anom 11:06
You say I keep repeating myself but you only choose which questions you want to answer. Besides for Mo why aren't the 3 others that are willing to volunteer for a fire dept willing to volunteer for TVAC? This will be my last post about it but maybe you can finally answer that question.

Kai Chen said...

Alan,

I would like to know where I can look up the following statistics:
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Teaneck's equalized tax rates for 2007 placed it with the 6th highest municipal taxes of the 70 municipalities in Bergen County and 3rd highest in overall taxes.
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This way I can find out where Dumont stands.

Thanks,
Kai Chen
abetterdumont.com

Anonymous said...

Teaneck got what they wanted. No Deputy Fire Chief's.

Anonymous said...

why won't anyone answer anom 10:52 "Besides for Mo why aren't the 3 others that are willing to volunteer for a fire dept willing to volunteer for TVAC?"

Anonymous said...

Here is a quote from BFD. "And by the way again mr fd union spokesman, the trip from my house to station 3 with no blue light and without running any lights (there are no lights to run), is indeed 97 seconds. Add time to get dressed, get to the car etc and I am there pretty damn quickly, as I have been for 10 years."
Congratulations. A miunte and a half response to the firehouse. By that time, TFD is either on the scene or half way there. Meanwhile, you have to get your gear, put it on, check the address on the map, find a hydrant, find a back up hydrant and pull the truck out. Then you wait. Is anybody else coming to the call? Yup, there's the other regular who shows up. Now keep waiting for him to get his gear, get dressed and get on the truck. Then you respond to the scene. All of a sudden, your 97 second response time has now become 7-10 minutes. Don't worry, the paid members of the TFD already have water on the fire and are knocking it down. You can come and do overhaul and pick up hoses if you like. Thanks for the help.

Anonymous said...

US TEANECK SUCKERS..........

WE MUST CHARGE THESE FREE LOADING TOWNS FOR THIS SERVICE

THAT S SHAREING